View Full Version : Ford ī34 hood sides - how I do it
Metalman Sweden
12-19-2010, 02:11 PM
Here I show how I do when I fab the sides for a -34 hood,
the rodder who order them like to have the smooth style without any louvers :rolleyes:
I start to make all measurements careful from the original piece before I make a pattern in paper , itīs most for the hinge edge I need the pattern.
After I cut out the sheet the first step was to flanging the lower edge for the wire, I always make the flange 2 1/2 x the wire size , I use the pullmax for this operation.
To wrap the edge around the wire I start with hand tools and then make the final closing with my trusty pullmax:D
Then itīs time to make the bead who follows the wrapped edge, for this I use the beadingmachine with correct set of wheels.
I always finish the ends of the beading with a corking tool shaped to fit the actual form.
To form the hinge (the half of it) I made a simple tool which bend the sheet around a piece of roundbar in the right size.
For the front edge I use a hammerform, its a fast way to get the right shape ;)
in the same time I punch the holes for the rivets, holes for the lockings and also form the edge of the hole with a plastic tool and a aluminium backingplate
Finaly itīs time to make the bead close to the top edge, this is a little tricky because of the hinge, itīs really close...
This is not a hard one to make but many of you maybe can pick up some ideas to use :D
The potos are not in order, if you wonderin about something, just ask, I will try to answer, hope you enjoy :)
// Metalman Sweden = Better in the trade than Im in english :twisted:
Pete's Metalshaping
12-19-2010, 02:21 PM
Very nice, thanks for sharing. Do you have any pictures of your Pullmax tooling for closing the wire?
oldgoaly
12-19-2010, 02:48 PM
I really like this idea!!!!
http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6837&stc=1&d=1292796371
Thanks for sharing!!!!
red baron
12-19-2010, 02:53 PM
Some great work there! And dont worry your english is more than good enough!
Carbuilder
12-19-2010, 06:32 PM
Could you show some more pictures of the tool for rolling the hinge & its function looks great.
rexrogers
12-20-2010, 05:00 AM
The hood sides look great. I am extremely impressed with the hinge area.
Steve Hamilton
12-20-2010, 11:10 AM
I will agree with Rex very nice hinge area.
thanks for sharing the process.
Steve
oldgoaly
12-20-2010, 11:30 AM
Ok how many of you have started or sketched out a hinge rolling tool, and the rest of you have saved pics of it for later..... I'm thinking one handle and multiple heads for each car hinge/size. MMS that is a neat idea! Thanks again for sharing!!!! tt;)
Metalman Sweden
12-20-2010, 12:46 PM
Tanks for all your comments,itīs fine to shear tricks in this tricky world :o
I always (nearly) take a photo or two when I have made and / or use a specialtool, ítīs a great way to remember how it shold be used and save a lot of time in the future ;)
I will came back with closeup fotos of the "hingetool" and the way I use it
if you out there is interested :?:
I will also came back with more info about the pullmax dies for wireclosing :D
Itīs nothing special, Im sure you have seen it before :cool:
Even here I try to take a photo at all crazy setups of dies just to remember to the next time....2 weeks later itīs always blown away from my "harddisc" mayby itīs time for a upgrade :lol::lol::lol:
Have a nice evening!
// Metalman Sweden
Tony Sanchez
12-20-2010, 01:49 PM
---Fantastic looking hood side. The reveal along the bottom side of the hood side, was it put in before or after the wiring was done?
---Tony
Carbuilder
12-20-2010, 01:54 PM
Yes we would like to see more pictures of your tooling & the hinge roller.
Yes we would like to see more pictures of your tooling & the hinge roller.
Sure would, Nice work!
Peter Miles
12-20-2010, 04:45 PM
How are you cutting out and/or finishing the rectangular areas removed between each hinge loop? This is very nice work.
bobadame
12-20-2010, 07:35 PM
Thanks for showing your excellent work. What is your name?
Randy Ferguson
12-20-2010, 08:50 PM
Very nice. How do you ensure the hinge loops align?
Very nice. How do you ensure the hinge loops align?
I wondered the same thing. I would make the tool with a long pin so you could make the ends first, then guide off each one loop as they are made. Looks like a nice tool!!
Thanks for posting Metalman!!
jlrussell4
12-21-2010, 04:29 AM
Very nice. How do you ensure the hinge loops align?
Randy,
It looks like the pin is longer than it needs to be. I guessed that it is used to align the loop being rolled to the one that is finished.
TheRodDoc
12-21-2010, 04:57 AM
I have a simular tool too. mine slides in till it bottoms in the notches. As long as all the notches are cut exactly the same, so will all the rolls.
I notch mine with a home made punch in which you just slide the sheet into a notch till it stops then punch.
I notch mine with a home made punch in which you just slide the sheet into a notch till it stops then punch.
Any chance of seeing that please Richard.
Metalman Sweden
12-21-2010, 08:49 AM
Nice that you out there like my "tools" and the work I do :cool:
As I title my post " how I do it " means that this is not the only way, Im sure that Mr Ford didnīt do it this way :eek::eek:
This is my way:
First I cut out all "tounges" with my top end snips ( not the crap with gears) se the place for them :lol::lol:
The cut out depends on the size of the rod you wrap around, and/or if you like the "hinge" to close around the rod completly, never wrap around the same size that you will end up with, it will always bee to tight :-x
The cuts need to be very exact becouse the deep between the "toungs" stops at a given place in the tool ,as the roddoctor write, see photos!
If its many pieces to cut, even I should use a notch to punch it out..
If you put a long rod in there you couldnt get the sheet out after the curl is done ( in this tool design)
If you design your tool to put in a full long rod, you will not get it out after you have wraped it with ten "toungs" , bee sure I have tryed already :evil:
If you end up with a "to" tight hinge, you can make a "bullet" in oversize to
ream the hinge with, just tap it all the way with a hammer :)
The tool works very, very good and have been in use for a long time :D
Thanks for looking
// Metalman Sweden
Ps. my name is Per and, of course, I live in the cold Sweden - 17 C right now:eek:
oldgoaly
12-21-2010, 08:56 AM
Per,
You make it look easy! Thanks for sharing! tt;)
Metalman Sweden
12-21-2010, 09:04 AM
This is the answer to Peteīs Metalshaping asking:
This is a simple set of dies I made to closing the edge around a wire, this one handle 2 wire sizeīs and as you can see this one have a guide tacked to it!
The toolset need the wrap been halfway with hand tools.
Itīs need correct adjustment so you donīt strech the edge!!
Hope you can get some ideas from this to use in your future tooling designs :D
// Metalman Sweden
Hei Per
Thanks for showing us how you are doing it !
where in Sweden do you live ?
Metalman Sweden
01-22-2011, 03:00 PM
I will thank you all for your nice and friendly comments!
I live in the middle of Sweden and have done many restarations of classiccars to a very high level.
I also make customparts and or bodypices you couldnt find, I like to make just one or two parts of the same.....:D
:D
One of my favorite thing is to design sheetmetal tools for me or others!
I have also made some real famous piece of art for Carl Milles ( after his ideas)
The biggest sculpture has a wight of 7000 kgs and was done in stainless.....
Its nice to join this forum to get and share ideas!
Have a nice evening!
Per aka Metalmen Sweden
Per thanks again for sharing the hinge tool. I made one this week so I can make a hood for my model a and it works great.
Metalman Sweden
01-22-2011, 10:53 PM
Nice Dyce, thats great to read that I can share trix :D
I have find a lot of great ideas at this site , even if I have worked with this
for more than 20 years....
Think if this great forum had exist then...it should have make it a bit easier I think...:-?
All the best
Per
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