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Renee n Jerry Conrad
08-16-2006, 05:15 PM
Got a heck of a deal on a 52" X 14ga? maybe 12ga box and pan. Like many old metal workers, it was missing a couple fingers. No problem. We have a machine shop. Lots of chips later we almost have a full set. Work was worthwhile because it's a 1500lb monster and we paid $325 for it, plus $50 for the log truck to haul it home. I see new 4' X 16ga US made machines over $3,000. Good money for a couple days machining!

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This setup wouldn't stand 'hogging' so I used a 3/4" rougher end mill and stair-stepped the nose angle, then a carbide shell mill to finish. General info, the included angle of the finger 'nose' is 40 degrees. An ok project if YOU are doing the machining, don't plan to pay someone - it'll cost too much!

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Once all the fingers are finished, the lengths must be adjusted to match. I can do that in this case on the extreme rear end of each finger, removing material on the long ones until they match.

The original nose pieces were hardened. I used hot rolled steel and will case harden with a torch and Kasenit. We could do this in our new forge but the national heat wave has not inspired us to work beside a 2800 degree fire.
Kasenit is a powder product that you cook onto the surface of mild steel at glowing orange heat and quench in water to produce a ding resistant surface leaving the core still soft. This hardens otherwise unhardenable steels by carburizing the surface It's sold by Enco and others.

The brake is a Dries and Krumpf. Anybody heard of this thing? Guesses on how old? Made in Chicago.


Jerry A Conrad

"If I could have any tool I wanted, what would it LOOK like?"

FriarTuck
08-16-2006, 06:04 PM
Wow, great find. That's a 12 ga machine. Very sturdy, and they really do the job. I have the same style and size, I love it. Mine is a Tiwanese knock-off, but it really performs. Kudos

Tuck

jlrussell4
08-16-2006, 06:42 PM
Hi Jerry and Renee too :) ,

It's good to see you posting again. I was wondering what you folks have been up to. The shroud project looks like it's going to take a lot of work. Keep us informed on your progress. Great deal on the brake, and I like the step by step instruction on making the new fingers.

whm1948
08-16-2006, 06:57 PM
Jerry, I've seen quite a few of the Dries and Krumpf brakes. That's a very good American brand. A good friend of mine has a 72" D and K box pan brake. He calls it a Chicago brake. We bent some 16 ga. stainless for some restaurant grill hoods that I made for someone. They are very heavy duty. I don't think you can go wrong on one of these. I saw a few about three years ago at the W. J. Savage auction here in Knoxville. These were very old but real high quality.

Bill B
08-16-2006, 07:00 PM
Looks like a great deal on a great tool.

Congrats!

planemech302003
08-17-2006, 12:52 PM
Great find Jerry and Renee! You'll be very happy with it! Best quality. John

Peter Miles
08-17-2006, 04:06 PM
That is a great deal, Jerry.

I sold one similar to that several years ago for $2,000.00.

Two weeks ago there was a 10', 16 gauge version of a D&K finger brake with extra "rounding" dies listed in the Seattle Craigslist for $3900.

You did good!

Renee n Jerry Conrad
08-18-2006, 04:51 AM
Progress report:

Once the fingers were close, put it all together and checked fit with a 0.010 feeler gauge.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/4031/ckfngrs.jpg

Overexertion had left our new friend somewhat snaggletoothed. Checked with a straight edge and tweaked with the 50-ton press.

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Lots of places the fit could be off, there's a lip that fits into that channel waaay in the back, which proved to be where the new ones were hitting first, needed a bit of a trim.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/4031/fngrdtl2.jpg

Two vises are better than one. Bolt one to the table and square up, then bolt the second one loosely in place, clamp a bar in the first one and close the second one on bar, tighten up the bolts and you're square to the world that matters to you here.

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Milling the back edges.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/4031/mllfngr.jpg


Abuse left knots and bumps on the clamp bar. Very gently slid a vixen file over crucial surfaces to smooth the blemishes.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/4031/filebrk.jpg


Pretty darned close, just a bit of touch up needed.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/4031/evenfngrs.jpg

It bends. 32ga test part is smooooth and lovely!

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/4031/brkng.jpg


"If I could have any tool I wanted for this job, what would it LOOK like?"