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gator 1
03-16-2006, 06:27 AM
Hey guys and gals, its only 6 weeks to the first anual GATOR MEET in Maryland. It looks like i will have a pullmax p-3 to add to the toys we can play with. I will list hotel info on friday. Make your plans now.all are welcome. I have 3 1/2 acres of land with a 9 and 7 year old boys so bring the kids if you want, theres plenty for them to do while were banging metal...Gator

FriarTuck
03-16-2006, 07:22 AM
Hey Gator, where'd ya steal the P-3? Sounds like you're set, and looking forward to the feedback. You guys will have a great time. Not gonna be able to make it this year, but have it on my calendar for next.

Tuck

gator 1
03-16-2006, 08:41 AM
i bought it from Boogieman, hes bringing it to the bugly meet so i will pick it up there . i will be at the bugly meet on saturday. See you there...Gator:twisted:

Keith
03-16-2006, 05:05 PM
i bought it from Boogieman, hes bringing it to the bugly meet so i will pick it up there . i will be at the bugly meet on saturday. See you there...Gator:twisted:

Gator,

Great to hear the p-3 stayed in the family. It has to have the most miles on a
p-max. I bought it from George King of Huntsville Al, I think George said he got it out of Tennesse. I brought it to central Mo., then John took it to OK, now it's going MD.

Remember when you were a kid and you would see a station wagon pulling a camper with all of the state decals on the windows showing where all they had been?

You need to buy some of those and put them on the P-3.:mrgreen:

Wray Schelin
03-16-2006, 05:37 PM
Gator,

Great to hear the p-3 stayed in the family. It has to have the most miles on a
p-max. I bought it from George King of Huntsville Al, I think George said he got it out of Tennesse. I brought it to central Mo., then John took it to OK, now it's going MD.

Remember when you were a kid and you would see a station wagon pulling a camper with all of the state decals on the windows showing where all they had been?

You need to buy some of those and put them on the P-3.:mrgreen:

Hi Keith,

I started that Pullmax's journey. A Jag customer from GA
called me and told me he was closing his shop up and that he had a bunch of tools to sell. Included in the bunch was the Pullmax, a Magee edge wiring machine, a cast English wheel, a screw press, and a few other tools. I didn't want or need any of them, but I figured George might. I gave George the guy's phone number and George bought the lot. Dan Shady ended up with the English wheel which we cleaned and tuned for him at the first get-together at George's. Mike Graf ended up with the screw press, you got the Pullmax, I'm not sure where the Magee went.

George can be a wheeler dealer..... :lol::lol::lol:

gator 1
03-16-2006, 05:40 PM
What can you tell me about the p-3. I bought it sight unseen. Johns word was good enough for me but im just looking for quirks or history..I dont even know what color it is. Johns wife being an indian an all i expect to find a war bonnet on the motor or something...LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

Gator

gravy
03-16-2006, 08:13 PM
gator

i can tell you first hand that pull max is junk stay away from it http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon13.gif
you better leave it here
leave it here !
leave it here !
leave it here !
leave it here !
leave it here !
leave it here!

ok gator you win big with that p-max it is a nice one ........


johnny ( did i mention leave it here)

Tisdelski
03-16-2006, 08:55 PM
hi guys,
i have a question , has anyone actually used this pullmax or is it a trophy piece? seems it can`t find a permanent home.

gary

Boogiemanz1
03-16-2006, 10:41 PM
Gary, I used it mostly with shrinking dies. Keith probably used it the most......he's had it the longest...........

Gator I think it looks like this one.........

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/Dcp_0029.jpg

Tony Sanchez
03-17-2006, 09:51 AM
---Gator,
Nice looking pullmax, I think we need to get it out here to Menifee.:lol::lol::lol:
---Tony.

Keith
03-17-2006, 05:39 PM
What can you tell me about the p-3. I bought it sight unseen. Johns word was good enough for me but im just looking for quirks or history..I dont even know what color it is. Johns wife being an indian an all i expect to find a war bonnet on the motor or something...LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

Gator


Hi Gator,

I went completely through it replaced the bearings in the motor and gearbox that showed any kind of wear. My kids scrapped about 40 coats of industrial paint off of it and I painted it my trademark RebelGray with Red accents, OH it looks awesome. :wink:

I have to tell you I made a bunch of parts with it and was very pleased with it. I just got a bigger one and John said I didn't need two of them, that's he got it.

I made running boards,floor boards, rear body panels, some yard art, lots of shrinking and lots of shearing. If you look in my gallery under "Keith" I have lots of pic's of pieces I made with it. It is the second most used big tool I have. The wheel gets used the most. After the p-max, I use a little shrinker/stretcher, then the plannishing hammer.

It is a great tool.

gator 1
03-20-2006, 03:02 PM
Trying to get a number on whos comming so i can make sure we have enough road...er....food. Also need to know how much material to borrow from my neighbors shop. If your comming , even for 1 day please list your name here so we can get a count...Gator

Peter Miles
03-20-2006, 03:18 PM
I'm coming Gator barring any major problems on my project at Ft. Monroe, VA.

Probably Saturday and Sunday.

Peter Miles

v2cad
03-20-2006, 03:24 PM
Gator,

I'm planning on showing up. I think I'm already booked in one of your finest campsites. <g> If it's OK with you I'd be showing up Thurs afternoon and help you set things up. I can bring a few things, TIG welder, bead roller and my air powered shrinker. I wanted to ask if anyone has thought about what we'll be working on? I might be able to finish dwgs for one part of the Bugatti.

J.

gator 1
03-20-2006, 05:14 PM
We can work on whatever anyone wants. I have a pair of old truck fenders we can beat up then fix up for demos on hammer and dolly and shrinking disc. Also have a 66 mustang that needs frame rails,trunk floor, full floors and fender patches. We have plenty but anyone can bring what they want to work on...Gator

derf
03-20-2006, 06:56 PM
I'm going try and make this, not yet sure if I can work is kinda hecktic. I can bring my mig welder, a few hammers and a complete lack of ability...

(I'm a noob)

Daniel J. Doughton
03-20-2006, 10:03 PM
Gator,
I will definitely be there at least on Saturday. Looking forward to meeting everyone who is coming and to PICK ALL OF YOUR BRAINS!!! :lol: :D (Sorry, just a little newbie humor there).
Dan

John Buffinton
03-21-2006, 02:21 AM
Ill be there, as long as I don't get a large influx of students. (army aviation AIT Instructor).

captainkirk
03-21-2006, 02:38 AM
I'll be there likely the whole time, already told work to get along without me.
Kirk

Bob Baisden
03-21-2006, 04:50 AM
Hi Gator,

I'll be there.

Bob

weldoneinc
03-21-2006, 05:32 AM
I should be there
James

Chassisguy
03-21-2006, 05:44 AM
I will be there, unless something major happens.
Looking forward to it. :grin:

Bill Firth
03-21-2006, 05:17 PM
I will be there

Bill

gator 1
04-07-2006, 07:25 PM
I have decided not to try and outdo roger in the weather department. Most people use fireworks but Roger being the Bugly person that he is decided a few tornadoes and severe thunderstorms should be the proper ending to a great meet. I have ordered 75 degree sunny weather for fri, sat and sun. I have fireworks to set off if anyone wants a royal send off.

Three weeks left and were getting ready....Gator

Chassisguy
04-08-2006, 05:10 AM
I am really looking forward to it. :mrgreen:
Were are the closest motels to you. I am thinking I will just bring a tent and camp out. Not sure about that yet.

Peter Miles
04-08-2006, 06:35 AM
Gator,

It is beginning to look like I may not be able to attend.

I think that my Virginia project may end on the 19th, one week too soon for your gathering!

Peter

v2cad
04-08-2006, 07:29 AM
Peter,
Why did you have to be that good and get the job finished ahead of time. :grin:
Is it to late to make a little mistake that delays things a week? I was looking forward to some stories about your acquisitions. You've got to be one of the leaders in the tool hunting dept.

J. Clear

FriarTuck
04-08-2006, 08:39 AM
Hey Gator, glad you made it home OK, you must have stayed just ahead of the turmoil. Sounds like this GatorMeet is shaping up to be a "wingding", looking forward to the pictures with metal-lust. Keep us posted.

Tuck

PS - To pass on Kerry's comment to me a few weeks back......"Come on Peter, you can do it, you know you wanta.....

Peter Miles
04-08-2006, 07:07 PM
Why did you have to be that good and get the job finished ahead of time. :D

Well, JC, that is not exactly the situation.

When I said that I was going to be able to come, I had somehow managed to temporarily convince myself that the scheduled completion date was 4/28 when it was actually 4/21 all the time!

I have put in over 60 hours on the project this week and I'm still at least a day behind the scheduled production go-live date of Monday (day after tomorrow!).

At this point, I don't know whether the project sponsors will push the project end date so that they get the whole planned two weeks of follow-on support, or whether they will say stick with the planned end date.

If the project gets extended through at least Tuesday I'll stay for the MM.

If not, I'll head back home a week early.

Peter

Boogiemanz1
04-08-2006, 09:32 PM
Aw, cm`on Peter, there has to be some equipment dealers and a few salvages between you and Gator, no telling what you may unearth in a week............john

FriarTuck
04-09-2006, 08:21 AM
Hi Peter, go early, I'm sure Gator could use the help setting up and getting ready. Then you could stay late to make up for it. There is always work to do after a meet. Just think "honey-do list", and I'm sure you can find a way. :lol:

Tuck

Peter Miles
04-14-2006, 08:30 PM
Yesterday, my Virginia project got extended one week so I will be able to attend after all!

I will have to work all day on Friday, but I will drive up Friday night and be there early on Saturday morning and stay till the end on Sunday.

By then, I should hopefully know what and where my next project will be.

Yeah!!!

Chassisguy
04-15-2006, 03:05 PM
I am sad becouse I have been waiting sometime for a meet to be held close enough for me to attend. But now I will not be able to do so. :(
Happy becouse I just closed the deal on a new (to me) larger shop (about 4 times larger). My current shop is about 1000 sqft, my new one is around 4000 to 5000 sqft. I am hoping to be moving into the new shop that same weekend. :| :grin:
Plus I will need the extra funds to make the move. I hope that in the near future there will be another close by.

gator 1
04-20-2006, 06:29 PM
Only 1 week to the 1st gator meet. Im in carlisle with Kerry and dutch and having a ball. Its always fun and i learn something new every time. Kerry got tired of making bowls at the shows and bought a female manikin. Dutch decided to get things rolling and made a flexible shape pattern of the figure. Im not sure but i feel that dutch is the first person to make a flexible shape pattern of the female breast. He had a smile while doing it to. Kerry took pictures so maybe we can blackmail...ask him to post them.

Meet a lot of new people and some are coming to the Gator Meet. For those that come in friday morning we will be going to my big shop about 6 mile away for a tour .You would have to see it to understand.

I am trying to get the planishing hammer up and running for the meet.

Everyone is invited, all 11000 members. I will steal...borrow some space from my neighbors.

Looking forward to seeing everyone and will keep you posted...Gator

Peter Miles
04-20-2006, 08:40 PM
I packed my ear protectors, safety glasses, shop apron, and leather gloves into my baggage last weekend.

I'm ready!

I only wish that I could be there on Friday.

Oh yeah - my project just got extended a second week. Now I'll be here in Virginia until April 05.

Oops, I guess that would be until May 05.

gator 1
04-23-2006, 05:07 PM
We will miss you but moving into a new shop takes priority. Dutch is having a meet the middle of July, That's about 5 1/2 hours north of me . His meet is a lot more in depth than mine will be. We are going to stretch a 1951 ford coe 32 to 36 inches and add 2 more doors. If you can make that one your more than welcome to meet me here and ride up with me. Also anytime your in the area or need a break to get re juiced you're welcome to come up and we will bang some steel...Gator

Peter Miles
04-24-2006, 08:07 PM
Gator,

Since this seems to be the current thread for your meet, could you post your address and contact info here?

Or point to a post in a different thread - I'm sure that it must be out there somewhere.

thanks, Peter

firstgenbird
04-24-2006, 08:44 PM
I had the same question since I would like to come. I'm not sure if the info was posted somewhere or maybe we are supposed to phone. If we should phone, what is the best time and the number.

gator 1
04-25-2006, 09:17 AM
Heres the address

5916 Laurel Court
Adamstown MD 21710
Home 301-698-5236
cell 240-674-2101

Closest town Frederick

No need to call, Just show up if you can. Any questions feel free to give me a call...

The easiest directions is on mapquest....Gator

Also, I have some coming in on thursday so we will be here from now till whenever...Gator

anders nørgaard
04-25-2006, 01:48 PM
Hi Gator,

I just "tracked you down" on Yahoo Map http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

State:

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Gator1_Meet_Adamstown.jpg (http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=16919&size=big&cat=500&page=1)

City:

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Gator_Adamstown.jpg (http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=16920&size=big&cat=500&page=1)

Street:

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Gator1_Meet_Laurel_Court.jpg (http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=16921&size=big&cat=500&page=1)

Hope you guys will have a GREAT meet!!!!!!!! http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

gator 1
04-25-2006, 05:33 PM
:evil: Your right on the money as usual. Only thing missing is you, Ben, and Emile...But we will try to have fun anyway...Gator and crew.

firstgenbird
04-25-2006, 08:54 PM
Anders, you could always catch a flight to Dulles, VA, IAD. I'll pick you up and bring you back when you're ready to drop. :lol:

anders nørgaard
04-25-2006, 10:39 PM
Thanks guys, would be great, but... you know http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif

HAVE FUN!! http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

gator 1
04-26-2006, 12:09 PM
This is getting bigger and bigger. About 50 to 75 if everyone shows up. Some people said they could bring e-wheels. We could use 3 or 4 more. I have 2. Also bags and hammers could be of use.

We are in the shop from now till sunday night for anyone that wants to come early. I will be working on the p-hammer Thursday and friday.

Weather is 75 and sunny with a chance of a passing shower on Monday. Just as ordered.

Hours will be from 8 am till 10 or 11 pm with a break for lunch and dinner. For those that can not make it your going to miss a good one but no fear this will be an annual event.

Will get pictures posted asap and keep everyone up to date.

Have a buggly day...Gator

Boogiemanz1
04-26-2006, 04:40 PM
I know it will be a good one, now if it were just a close one!!!...........john

John Buffinton
04-26-2006, 05:41 PM
ill be there on friday morning, what projects are lined up? im excited!

Im bring my bag and hammers and a bunch of clecos of different sizes if needed. and other stuff

gator 1
04-27-2006, 05:46 AM
Its only 1200 miles to Dallas from my house. With the flats and the amount of time you spent in traffic going to rogers meet you could have been here.

( You know you want to )

i got the pullmax wired up and put wheels on it. works good so far and sets 10 inches taller. I have a hard time working on a machine sitting down.:lol:

Still working on the hammer. Thought i could clean and arrange the shop for the meet in 2 days. I haven't taken anything that good since the sixties.....

we will do a group shot on friday, Saturday, and sunday. I was thinking about purple frames for the pullmax but don't know how it would look, what do you think.....Gator

Kerry Pinkerton
04-27-2006, 06:10 AM
Wish I could be there. This is the first meet on the east coast I've missed other than the one WAAAY up in New England a few months back. :( :(

Don't forget to give away the door prize!

Boogiemanz1
04-27-2006, 09:06 AM
Hey Gator I will send you some pictures of one if you want:lol: ..............jb

Boogiemanz1
04-28-2006, 10:45 PM
You guys must be having too much fun! Ya know it wouldn't hurt to let us in on it......................:-D .....................john

Peter Miles
04-29-2006, 02:42 AM
Leaving Hampton now - I'll be there in less than 5 hours!


Peter

gator 1
04-29-2006, 06:03 AM
73 and sunny was the weather of the day. We had 24 people on Friday show up and had a blast. I finally got clays dies cut down for the pull max and we ran the machine all day. Kirk brought his e-wheel and some tools and was showing everyone his new shrinking tool. Very impressive, everyone liked it. Bob showed up from Georgia and is working on a buck he made up.

I did not get a chance to get pictures on Friday as i was running my legs off. There were some photos taken and I'm sure they will be posted.

Thanks to jay who came in early to help set up...I found floor space i have not seen since i poured the concrete.

Its time to get started today as its already 65 and sunny, will post more later...Gator

tdoty
04-29-2006, 01:48 PM
Have a blast guys! Cool and rainy here, and I have to work anyway!


Tim D.

gator 1
04-29-2006, 02:19 PM
Welcome to Gatormeet 2006

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_002.jpg

The new Bugly Plasma cutting table..( and road kill cleaning table )

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_011.jpg

Another view

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_009.jpg

Pullmax on wheels

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_008.jpg

Work in progress

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_006.jpg

Boogieman,,Is this yours

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_007.jpg

Jay making a flame panel

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_005.jpg

Bill hard at work

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_004.jpg

Kirk on the pullmax

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_003.jpg

John hard at work

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_001.jpg
More later...Gator

FriarTuck
04-29-2006, 05:52 PM
OK, spent the last three days in the shop ALONE!!!!!!!!!!! You guys are having all the fun. What a great event. Too many great events, too little MONEY, TIME, and ENERGY. Thanks for the pictures, and keep 'em coming. Later

Tuck

Peter Miles
04-30-2006, 05:50 AM
It is a great time here, even though I managed to get sunburned.

I will be the guy everyone remembers as practicing tucks and getting half of them on the wrong side of the material.

Peter

anders nørgaard
04-30-2006, 07:39 AM
It is a great time here, even though I managed to get sunburned.

I will be the guy everyone remembers as practicing tucks and getting half of them on the wrong side of the material.

Peter

Hi Peter,

Which side is the wrong side of the material?????????? http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

FriarTuck
04-30-2006, 09:00 AM
Hey Peter, just get a bowling ball to hammer out the tuck. It will be easier to hit. Down side is it does tend to make the tucks open up a bit. :lol: :lol:

Tuck

weldoneinc
04-30-2006, 12:21 PM
I got back home early this morning , I had a GREAT time at Gators . Thanks to our host and all who attended .His shop is fantastic alot of good equip.
James

Tisdelski
04-30-2006, 04:18 PM
hi anders,

i believe peter , peter, toolitus peter (:mrgreen: ), is referring to not putting his tucks to the inside of the panel so they can be crushed on a flat plate as opposed to crushing them on the outside which requires lots of different radius` to crush against.


gary

firstgenbird
04-30-2006, 04:34 PM
I had a great time at Gator's and we had increadible weather for all three days. It was a great opportunity to see flat metal worked into shapes and curves and watching the stretching, shrinking, wheeling and planishing that turn flat panels into works of art.

Jay brough me a complete window frame/ glass channel to tinker with. I experimented with making a corner flange. I was surprised how how much shrink was possible with only a hammer and heel dolly. It's not the correct radius, but I'm pretty happy with getting anything out of my first try.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/P1010448.JPG



Gator showed me plug welding and I did pretty well with that until I fiddled the settings on his welder to match what I use on mine. Soon I was burning holes and making bloobs. Then BigMike pointed out Gator uses .023 wire in his smaller machine, not .03 that I use. I wonder why my settings don't work? :confused: After making a mess of some tin and showing my handy work to Jay, I offered to weld in the dash he was shaving.:evil: For some reason, Jay figured he was better off tigging it in without my help. :lol:

captainkirk
04-30-2006, 06:31 PM
73 and sunny was the weather of the day. We had 24 people on Friday show up and had a blast. I finally got clays dies cut down for the pull max and we ran the machine all day. Kirk brought his e-wheel and some tools and was showing everyone his new shrinking tool. Very impressive, everyone liked it. Bob showed up from Georgia and is working on a buck he made up.

I did not get a chance to get pictures on Friday as i was running my legs off. There were some photos taken and I'm sure they will be posted.

Thanks to jay who came in early to help set up...I found floor space i have not seen since i poured the concrete.

Its time to get started today as its already 65 and sunny, will post more later...Gator

I'm really happy with the reception that I got on the tuck shrinker that was shown for the first time at Gators meet. Everyone seemed to learn it very quickly and were shrinking metal with the best of them in about 10 min. which seemed to be the average time for someone that had never tried tuck shrinking metal till they were really very good at it. Given the great reception I'l probably put them into production (time permitting) very soon.

Note: this is not the "shrinking machine' that was talked about prior and that one is totally different this one was designed and built in parallel with the other one. This is a low dollar high results tool that I think both new and old will like.
Before anyone says it's "not needed" I'm sure that the people that are experts at tuck shrinking won't have as much interest but at least make the attempt to not completely rain on my parade as I have spent considerable time and effort and it has been very well received by everyone that has used it. So before it's declared "useless" by anyone please leave somewhat of an open mind that it just might be usefull.
Thank to all that tried it and I hope it will help to advance the "art" of shaping in some small way.
Kirk

captainkirk
04-30-2006, 06:35 PM
This is just a note to thank Gator for putting on the metal meet at his house this past weekend. I had a great time and met some new faces, Gator put in allot of time and effort to make this happen and I want to say how much it was appreciated by myself and everyone that attended.
Many thanks gator for a great time (and hope this is the start of many more).
Kirk

Bill Firth
04-30-2006, 08:09 PM
THANK YOU GATOR

Gator has a very nice shop that is very well tooled and he opened it up for us all to play.
Everyone seemed to have a good time,I had a BLAST. Thanks Gator.

Bill

Pedalcar
04-30-2006, 10:22 PM
Hi Tuck

Could not have explained it better.http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif

Ben


OK, spent the last three days in the shop ALONE!!!!!!!!!!! You guys are having all the fun. What a great event. Too many great events, too little MONEY, TIME, and ENERGY. Thanks for the pictures, and keep 'em coming. Later

Tuck

anders nørgaard
04-30-2006, 10:36 PM
hi anders,

i believe peter , peter, toolitus peter (:mrgreen: ), is referring to not putting his tucks to the inside of the panel so they can be crushed on a flat plate as opposed to crushing them on the outside which requires lots of different radius` to crush against.


gary

Hi Gary,
Peter? Toolitus Peter..... the nice guy, JVO sends sitting in the corner with Jeffrey???? :D :D :D

Yes, I know but John Kelly seems to do ALOT of tuck shrinking on the "wrong" side and it looks like it works perfectly well http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif

anders nørgaard
04-30-2006, 10:37 PM
Hi Tuck

Could not have explained it better.http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif

Ben

Hi Ben,
Neither could I http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif
Maybe it's time for a "European Continental Regional" soon http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

Tisdelski
05-01-2006, 08:03 AM
hi anders,

i agree you are correct about tucking on the outside works just fine as long as you have the correct radius to crush on. if you put your tucks on the inside, all you need is a flat surface to crush on.

gary

Kerry Pinkerton
05-01-2006, 08:42 AM
The problem is that "Most" folks don't have a convex surface to crush tucks on but flat surfaces are everywhere. That's why I teach folks starting out to try and keep them on the 'inside', ie, concave surface. Plus there are less marks on the 'outside' of the panel that way since most panels have the convex surface to the world.

Having said that, the metal doesn't care. PSI is PSI and the metal is going to move in the path of least resistance. As long as that path is into itself, you WILL shrink. LOTS and LOTS of ways to do it.

v2cad
05-01-2006, 08:48 AM
Wow, This weekend was a blast. The mix of people that were there was very interesting. We had a couple of guys from Lancaster that were into rebuilding old tractors and crawlers. Both have a successful business's and have been making parts for years. Another guy built an incredible Model A limousine with almost no metalshaping. It was all cut & welded from parts already shaped like the bed sides from a Ranger pickup and the roof panels from a Lincoln. He did this about 15 years ago before this group even existed. I encouraged him to check out the group, but he lacks the time and doubted that he even remembers how to use the computer. Some of the new guys didn't get involved right away, but towards the end everyone was really having a good time. We had to be careful once Larry got started welding because anything that was laying around ended up welded up into a creative piece of "Art". Big Mike was wheeling away and I saw Peter trying every machine or process there. Bill, Bob & James were working on Cycle car bodies all weekend and made a lot of progress. John Buffington, John & my self worked on an early Pickup that needed the dash filled. What can I say about "Captain Kirk", that guy makes the energizer bunny look like he's sitting still. His energy & enthusiasm were contagious and his ideas never stopped.

Then there's Gator, here's a guy that's got to be one of the most interesting people that I've ever met. He took us on a tour of his company that just blew me away and yet he's just a guy doing what he loves, building hotrods. I truly enjoyed working with people that share the passion of this craft. Many thanks to all of you.
I know it's hard for some to attend a meet due to family or business obligations, but try. I'm sure you won't be disappointed.


J. Clear

John Buffinton
05-01-2006, 12:34 PM
what a great time. Kirks mind is incredible. his shrinking fixture is awesome. You will end up with almost a 100% shrink. I never tuck shrank before and picked it up very quickly and got very good results. If anything it is a great training tool to teach you how to tuck without his tool.
I never had seen an english wheel up close let alone use one but kirk helped me through a project and it turned out great, I'm proud. thanks a million kirk. Me and j (john) and john (the three johns) finished the dash out nicely and I learned alot. J (john) is a great guy and welder. gators company is unbelievable and can't be described, you have to see it. I learned alot and made some good friends. normally, there is no one around you, who even knows anything about metalshaping let alone shares the passion for cars as you. It's great when you find people who speak your language. I had a great time and will attend next year.

Kirk-- when are you going to sell "IT"?

captainkirk
05-01-2006, 05:14 PM
what a great time. Kirks mind is incredible. his shrinking fixture is awesome. You will end up with almost a 100% shrink. I never tuck shrank before and picked it up very quickly and got very good results. If anything it is a great training tool to teach you how to tuck without his tool.
I never had seen an english wheel up close let alone use one but kirk helped me through a project and it turned out great, I'm proud. thanks a million kirk. Me and j (john) and john (the three johns) finished the dash out nicely and I learned alot. J (john) is a great guy and welder. gators company is unbelievable and can't be described, you have to see it. I learned alot and made some good friends. normally, there is no one around you, who even knows anything about metalshaping let alone shares the passion for cars as you. It's great when you find people who speak your language. I had a great time and will attend next year.

Kirk-- when are you going to sell "IT"?

I enjoyed working with you and I'm sure you will be very good at metal work, you pick things up fast and have great determination.
You first project of the motorcycle back fender came out great and you have a right to be proud.
I was thrilled by the response the fixture for shrinking received and am currently working on getting the metal together to make a batch, thanks for trying it out. Hope to see you if James has a meet later on in the summer.
Kirk
aka captainkirk
aka Energizer Bunny :grin:

gator 1
05-01-2006, 07:11 PM
Finally got a minute to catch my breath and update everyone. The weather was great, the people were better and i had a blast. I would like to thank everyone who showed up for making this a great success. It will definitely be a annual event.

Thursday the shop was almost done and jay showed up early with his motor home and helped finish the setup. After about 1 hour we figured out his motor home don't like ground fault outlets so we hooked to a regular outlet, ( Must be a Alabama motor home ):lol: . We finished setting up and had dinner when Robert showed up so he would know where we were.

Friday had about 20 people by noon so we went to my other shop and took the tour. that afternoon a lot of metal shaping took place. Kirk was doing E-Wheel and shrinking demos, people were watching Kerry's video and a pullmax video that bill brought. I broke out the chips and lunchmeat about 7 as no one wanted to stop and go to dinner. We left the shop about 11 that night well wore out.

Saturday had about 25 people and a lot going on. John, John, and Jay too on the dash project in the truck and did a great job. Kirk had everyone tuck shrinking and understanding how it worked with his new tool ( i promised no pictures till he was ready) but its so simple and a great teaching tool. Bill, Bob, and James were giving Bobs and Bills project a run for the money. James did some tig welding demos and Bill took out his aggressins on the beater bag. He passed along a tip he learned that by putting a piece of plywood under the beaterbag stand it deadens most of the noise.

We had a cookout saturday afternoon with hamburgers and hot dogs and chips and a lot of stories. I bailed out about 10:30 that night but there were still 6 people in the shop. The pit bull planishing hammer got a workout and sent everyone running for the ear plugs. The local henrob torch rep came buy and did a demo of the torch. Lot of interest and he sold 1 torch.

Sunday was down to 15 but still going strong. Started to thin out about noon and the last ones left about 5:30. Every piece of steel that set for more than 5 minutes was transformed into larry's welding project. A good time was had by all.

Thanks to everyone that took time to spend with someone that did not know how and show them. This is what makes us a great and strong group. I heard comments all weekend from the new people that they were amazed that his kind of thing existed and seeing first hand made all the posts make sense. They could not believe that people would stop what they were doing to not only explain what and how they were doing something but let them get involved.

I would like the give a special thanks tp my wife Danielle who did the behind the scenes running and my kids Austin and Dakota for getting people signed up while we were at the tour and keeping the fridge loaded with water.

I think the only thing missing so far is a red contour gage. If anyone finds one please send Kirk a PM.

I encourage everyone to take the challenge and do a weekend get together. I was afraid that still being new to this that people would be asking things that i could not answer but i found out that if we didn't know the answer we just jumped in and figgured it out by doing it.

I have some more pics to post and big mike took a lot that hes going to post to his gallery. If anyone is ever in the area please feel free to look me up as i always have time for a family member...Gator

FriarTuck
05-01-2006, 08:25 PM
Congratulations Gator, sounds like a great meet, and a great group of guys to enjoy it. Kirk has me intrigued with the tuck shrinking tool he's been working on. Seems like there is another Regional Meet every other week this summer, and it is really going to give a lot of folks the opportunity to see and enjoy the MetalMeet spirit in person than ever before. A truly amazing phenominum taking hold in the community. Kudos, wish I could have been there.

Tuck

BigMike
05-01-2006, 08:29 PM
GatorMeet '06 was fun, friendly and highly educational! I had a great time, and I learned a whole lot. Everyone was friendly and I felt at home very quickly. Nobody minded me watching them work, or my questions about it, and all encouraged me to try it for myself. I just watched for a long while though, as I learn best that way, and when I did pick up some scrap and work on it, I got great results (a compound curve, centered where I wanted it, first try!). The instruction offered so freely was obviously excellent!

Gator was a first rate host and everything ran very smoothly. How he arranged for the perfect weather I have no idea. The tour of his "other" workshop was simply amazing. My mind is still boggling at all the things that had to be done to get from the beginnings he described to what we saw on the tour. The machinery was seriously impressive as well. His "home shop" is also darned impressive...I've seen professional shops that aren't that well equipped!

As someone so new to metalworking that I didn't even know you *could* shrink sheet metal with a hammer it was very satisfying to be able to get a flat piece of metal to bend up into sort of a "candy tray" (not a bowl...it was too shallow for that...only a few inches in the middle) with only 8 tuck shrinks on Kirk's new tool and some rolling on his wheel machine. That and watching the results others were getting showed me what was possible with some more practice and time. How he found time to teach John and me the basics of stretching and shriking, work on the dash of the truck project, demo his new tool to anyone interested and *still* get a BMW fairing done I just don't know. He never seemed to be in a hurry either!

The tape method of making patterns seems so obvious in retrospect, but all the great ideas are like that, aren't they? I've got plans for using that one very soon!

There was a lot more that I learned at GatorMeet '06...but you get the idea. I don't think anyone failed to learn *something* they didn't know or hadn't thought of before. A very productive weekend both in metal and in other sorts of forming.

Anyone who wasn't there, you missed a great event. To everyone who was, especially Gator for holding it, I'd like to say a huge *THANK YOU*!!

BigMike
05-01-2006, 08:43 PM
As Gator said, I took a bunch of pictures. Some were redundant, some didn't come out well, and a few were just for my own amusement, but most of the rest are in my gallery section. I'll put a few of them here too:


http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/06gator02.jpg

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/06gator03.jpg

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/06gator05.jpg

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/06gator06.jpg
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http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/06gator09.jpg

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/06gator10.jpg

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/06gator11.jpg

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/06gator12.jpg

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/06gator14.jpg

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/06gator15.jpg

Daniel J. Doughton
05-01-2006, 10:00 PM
I had a great time at Gator's meet; unfortunately I was only able to attend on Saturday. (Don'tcha hate it when life gets in the way?) Next year, a different story. Gator has a positively killer shop, and is second to none in hospitality. I enjoyed watching and talking to everyone who was there. It was also great to see a Henrob torch in the hands of someone who knew how to use one. Mine seems to have a poor connection between the floor and the grip (read here-me). I picked up ALOT of knowledge and want to thank everyone for taking time away from their own projects to give me some pointers. I have put a six-week time limit on myself to reproduce that butt-ugly fender I brought. Pics, from start to finish, will be forthcoming. Just wanted to say thanks and am looking forward to attending more meets in the future.
Dan

Bob Baisden
05-02-2006, 07:13 AM
Gator,
Thanks for hosting such a great metalmeet. I had a fantastic time! It was good seeing everyone again and meeting the new folks. I will add photos to this thread later today.

Bob

gator 1
05-02-2006, 01:24 PM
Gator Meet 06

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_0071.jpg

Truck dash before Jay, John, and John.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_0081.jpg

A tight radius tipped in pullmax and finished with hammer and dolly. No cutting or welding.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_0091.jpg

Kirks cycle cover.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_012.jpg

Jays pin stripe taped and wheeled flame panel for his brothers truck

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_0111.jpg

Bills project. All it needs is a tap and some ice.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_010.jpg

Jays rolled flames.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_0061.jpg

Kirks cycle cover, another view.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_0041.jpg

I belive this is what Bill started at Wrays Class.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3994/medium/gatormeet06_0021.jpg

John Buffingtons first wheeling and shrinking attempt. Nice job


A good time was had by all. James won the metalshapping 101 video and Bob won the Metalmeet.com sticker. Good food, Good friends, and a lot of metal banging...It dont get no better than this...See ya next year...Gator

Bob Baisden
05-02-2006, 02:19 PM
Hi,

The following four photos are of the buck construction that I brought to the Gator Meet. This is the nose of an auto-union race car at 3/4 scale. The buck was filled with self expanding foam from aircraft spruce, then bondo up.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3995/medium/IMG_0484_1.JPG

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3995/medium/IMG_0486_1.JPG

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3995/medium/IMG_0491_1.JPG (http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=17075&size=big&cat=3995&page=3)

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3995/medium/IMG_0493_1.JPG

At Gators, Bill and I made the left and right sides of the nose from 19 gage steel. We started on an one piece bottom but ran out of time.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3995/medium/IMG_0516_1.JPG (http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=17091&size=big&cat=3995&page=1)

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http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3995/medium/IMG_0528_1.JPG

This photos shows James and Bill fitting the aluminum tail sections pieces for the auto-union car that Bill and I made at Wray's class.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3995/medium/IMG_0512_1.JPG

The following is Bill welding on the bottom piece of the tail section that Wray made.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3995/medium/IMG_0518_1.JPG

Here is Bill planishing the welds on an Imperial Wheel.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3995/medium/IMG_0515_1.JPG[url="http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3995/medium/IMG_0515_1.JPG"] (http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3995/medium/IMG_0528_1.JPG)

Here James is demostrating how our cycle car will zip past the Tinman at the Oblong Fairgrounds. lol

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3995/medium/IMG_0519_1.JPG

jvo
05-02-2006, 03:03 PM
I ain't saying anything, 'cause I'm extremely jealous of you guys that were able to make it there.

Well, I guess I have one thing to say, "Kirk, its probably not needed." Just kidding. Lord knows Peter Miles will need one. Aww, maybe I will too. Can't wait to see it.

Looks like you guys had a lot of fun. Dammit, I'm beginning to wish I lived on the East coast somewhere. John V.O.

edwardd_
05-02-2006, 07:38 PM
Gator,

Did you forget the eye / face protection when running the lathe?

whm1948
05-02-2006, 07:45 PM
That was one of the first things I noticed. No glasses. I wasn't going to say anything. I guess I should have. Be safe Gator. Bill