flame embossing with a bead roller (electric)

[Pedalcar]

Hi Gang

here are some pictures of embossing a flame into a sheet.

my electric driven tipping wheel with reverse

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3657/medium/Space_Bike_031.jpg
http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3657/medium/Space_Bike_030.jpg

first line
http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3657/medium/Space_Bike_032.jpg

second line put the bead roller in reverse

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3657/medium/Space_Bike_033.jpg

third line reverse again

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3657/medium/Space_Bike_034.jpg

flatten with a slapper

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3657/medium/Space_Bike_036.jpg

did not do the best i can on this but with some more patience you can come
to great results.
i planished out the contour of the bigger flames to get an overlap.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3657/medium/Space_Bike_045.jpg

Ben

[Duck]

Ben,

Thanks for the photos of the tipping embossing. What is the hardess of your lower wheel and how deep and wide is the groove? It looks shallow and wide in your photo.
The bike is really coming along nicely. Super job.

Duck

[Tisdelski]

hi ben,
can you tell us what you used for a motor for your bead roller? ac or dc or universal ? how many hp and rpm. did you use a footpedal and if you did is it an on-off or variable speed? sorry for needing so many details , but i`m struggling with finding the right setup to motorize mine.

thanks, gary

[Tisdelski]

hi guys,
thought you`d like to see this guys take on how to do flames. make sure you go on his site (the second link ) and see the tinwork on the mustang. he roll all this stuff; no embossing.
http://www.datinmanjay.com/howto.html
http://www.datinmanjay.com/


gary

[Doug98105]

While we're on the topic of embossing, here's a pic of a piece of copper from the scrap bin.

It's embossing with a design that over laps, could be used for flames where one flame would cross over or under another.

This was a test of the method for some decorative copper tiles I'm thinking of making. The tiles will have a flower design with over lapping petals and leaves.

I don't have pics of the process, and it's harder to explain than show, so I'll post some in the near future. Meanwhile you can puzzle over it. It can be done in a press or a Pullmax type machine, no skill required.

The circles are around 1-1/2" diameter.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/overlapping-emboss.jpg

Doug

[John Jordan]

While we're on the topic of embossing, here's a pic of a piece of copper from the scrap bin.

It's embossing with a design that over laps, could be used for flames where one flame would cross over or under another.

This was a test of the method for some decorative copper tiles I'm thinking of making. The tiles will have a flower design with over lapping petals and leaves.

I don't have pics of the process, and it's harder to explain than show, so I'll post some in the near future. Meanwhile you can puzzle over it. It can be done in a press or a Pullmax type machine, no skill required.

The circles are around 1-1/2" diameter.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/overlapping-emboss.jpg

Doug

If you make a lot of the tiles, JohnVO might buy them from you.:grin:

I'll look forward to your pictures.

John

[Pedalcar]

hi ben,
can you tell us what you used for a motor for your bead roller? ac or dc or universal ? how many hp and rpm. did you use a footpedal and if you did is it an on-off or variable speed? sorry for needing so many details , but i`m struggling with finding the right setup to motorize mine.

thanks, gary

Hi Gary,

no tag on my motor, but i used one with a gearbox that has a low speed.

When i tried it,it run to fast so i lowered it down again and it is not there where i want it .

The lower the speed the better ,i think 1/2 - 1 hp is more then enough.

Variable speed sounds nice but once you got the right speed you don't touch it anymore.

I use a footpedal because you have both your hands free and that is a must for me.

Ben

[Pedalcar]

Ben,

Thanks for the photos of the tipping embossing. What is the hardess of your lower wheel and how deep and wide is the groove? It looks shallow and wide in your photo.
The bike is really coming along nicely. Super job.

Duck


Hi Duck,

the hardness is ?? it is urethane and there is no groove in the wheel it's flat.


Ben

[Maukka]

what kind of dies are good for flame embossing?