metal shaping video

[Matt Rioux]

Matt Rioux

Hi guys, I am new to this site and I wanted to know if there was any instuctional videos that I could download off internet. Ive been to Ron Covell site also Ron Fournier but I find there videos expensive. anyone??

thank you

matt

[John Kelly]

Hi Matt,

Almost any video you can buy is sure to have a few things you do not know on it...well worth the money in time saved...I think a video is worth the $40 or whatever, if I learn one neat trick from it. Most of the people selling videos are small businesses that deserve your support. Videos take a lot of time to make. Both of the Ron's are great, and so are Kent White, John Glover, and Faye Butler. They are sellling there knowledge and creative thinking very cheaply...not as great a bargain as this site, but a great bargain non the less.

Wray has a few short videos on the site for downloading that you can certainly get something from.

John www.ghiaspecialties.com

[Riddle]

Hey Matt. Go to technicalvideorental.com (http://technicalvideorental.com/). They have a few great videos for rent for $9.99 per week.Jason

[MetalSkills]

www.metalcrafttoolsskillcenter.com (http://www.metalcrafttoolsskillcenter.com) Downlaodable videos on English Wheel and metalshaping we are always adding new ones on.


Thank you,

Scott

[Michael Moore]

If you look in Google Video there's a video of Kerry at a meet demonstrating some different techniques - about 40 minutes or so long I think. The production quality isn't the greatest as it was shot under a dark tent with the bright sunlight in the background, and the wind sort of roars through now and then, but there's some good info in it and the price is certainly right!

cheers,
Michael

[rsanter]

look on ebay. I just got the ron covell video on e-wheels for $18

bob

[Archie]

Matt
Some good info here
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dent-Repair-and-the-Shrinking-Disc-a-DVD-How-To-Lesson_W0QQitemZ120010321169QQihZ002QQcategoryZ617 QQcmdZViewItem

Archie

[tombsycles]

Hi Matt.

I have a couple of Ron Covell's videos I got cheap on e-bay, and after 30+ years metal-bashing, learned a few tricks from them.

Saved a few knuckles and fingertips in the mean time too. (Not to say they weren't already bashed a few times! LOL)

You can't go wrong learning from proven experience, and I agree: You simply can't learn a lot of this stuff by making your own mistakes.

Metalworking is an artisan craft, and doing it correctly the "old school" way by hand isn't often being taught, except by a very talented and limited few.

Automation and time constraints to meet production today have all but removed the ability to successfully toy with projects from the average person's affordability. This includes tooling required, although many processes that were very expensive in the past are dropping in price as new technology emerges.

A cautionary note:

Look at Wray's posts and heed the top animation!
E-Wheels do bite hard the first few times until you get used to steering a piece around on them and keeping your fingers out of the way.
Wear welding gloves (Cumbersome at first, but you'll see why), and keep your tender pinkies out of the wheels!
If you've ever driven a nail and hit your finger solid.... it's nothing compared to getting one caught in an e-wheel!
Planishing hammers are equally as dangerous to the beginner.

If you are unsure of what you're attempting, a good rule of thumb is: BE VERY CAREFUL!

Always wear eye protection, even when hammering on a bag.
It takes very little for a sharp shard of metal to fly when you're hammering on it, and it's direction to fly can't be controlled.

Always use hearing protection when using pneumatic equipment, or you'll pay for it.
After my time in the trade and not doing so, I did.

Long sleeves must be worn when conducting any type of electric welding, unless you want to suffer an unvoluntary serious sunburn from the arc, and believe me, it hurts like a *%$#!, arc, mig and especially tig, even after a short length of time.

Leather work aprons protect your body from getting nicked by sharp edges, as well as a welding vest with sleeves will double up, when you will often weld during the same process you are doing.

Never electric weld without a helmet, or glasses/googles when torch welding, or the flash you get will feel like somebody threw a handful of sand in your eyes when you go to bed. (And the "old wive's tale" of wet teabags on your eyes don't really help after the fact)

Only wear long legged pants and leather work boots, (preferably safety boots) in the shop, because shorts and sandals (even with socks) don't cut anything but your feet, if you don't burn yourself first. (Believe me, I've seen worse)

Call me anal, but it needed to be said.
For all of us on Metalmeet.

Safety is paramount when doing anything, and as we all take "short-cuts" when doing "quickies", I have taken the opportunity to say so, as I don't remember a single time this has been reinforced on this public forum.

I have posted a few repair/fabrication methods on this forum, and never mentioned the safety precautions required prior to attempting anything I have posted.
For this error, I apologize.
I will not do so in the future, after realizing this error.

Not all contributors are tradespersons with this prior knowledge.

Many questions are asked on this forum by beginners, and elementary safety practices must be known first, before attempting any operation, complicated, or not.

This is not to say the first poster on this thread doesn't know safety practices, but moreover, I post it for "The good of the order".

Best of luck Matt,

Tom

[Tin Head]

Thanks Tom,

Safety is mentioned quite often, but sometimes secondary. Your writeup should be put somewhere it is always a click away. Maybe Tuck can capture it and add it to the library or something.

Bob

[Henrob Jim]

I agree with Tom's post and it should be made easy to get or even as a pop up ad.

Saftey is so easy to forget untill you see blood, feel the piercing of an eyeball, smell burning skin, or have ringing ears, then of course it is too late.

At MM06 I think We should have a basic saftey course at the beginning of each day both for newbies and as a refresher for us as experienced metalshapers.

Maybe a printed list on the back of the realease of liability of basic saftey rules would be good for those that come in after the morning "saftey meeting":)

[Gene_Olson]

Only wear long legged pants and leather work boots, (preferably safety boots) in the shop, because shorts and sandals (even with socks) don't cut anything but your feet, if you don't burn yourself first. (Believe me, I've seen worse)

Tom

Yeah the LEATHER shoes, especially if you are doing hot things.

One of the Artmetal guys sent us a picture of his shoe and his infected foot after a piece of red hot drop/slag landed on his plastic fabric sneakers.
The stuff is glue and holds the hot piece there to burn you good.

Please, don't repeat that one.

[tombsycles]

... to start a thread on common safety practices related to this craft?

My experience has overwhelmingly proven entry-level enthusiasts often have no concept of old-school standard safety when working with what on the surface appears as a harmless piece of metal and associated tools and environments.

My previous post's reference to an individual wearing sandals with socks wasn't a joke.

Surely as an internet based resource community, we want to protect our newbies and "old slackers" who have forgotten from the painful mistakes we may have made?

(BTW: I never made any! LOL!!! I swear... I read about the "wet tea-bag" flash cure in a book, and purposely got a flash to see if it worked! It doesn't.....) :cry:
LOL, but it wasn't funny the first 200 times it happened.
I wear my helmet/googles religiously today, even when tacking.
First time I used an e-wheel, it bit me hard... actually VERY HARD... and I was careful. But there were no books about usage or safety included with it new from manufacture.
The idea we all know the hazards when working with our craft related equipment is incorrect.
Good thing I didn't start on a PullMax, or I wouldn't have retained all my fingers to this day.

As safety is mandatory daily buisiness these days, metalworking a hobby for me until I retire and "go for the gusto" soon, I would be more than happy to take the lead for this initiative should there be any interest.

The webmaster is welcome to contact me.

I promise to refrain from verbose text in doing so.

Bullet points would probably be best to produce such a guide, in "best practice" categories:

Presented as: sheet metal, structural steel, different metal types, pressure vessels and associated hardware, shop tools and equipment, and general shop knowledge.
These could be highlighted with 3 sub-categories each: Imminent death, probable injury, and likely hazard.

Anyone else interested?

With only the best of safety promoting intentions,

Tom

[jlrussell4]

Hi Tom,

here is your forum: http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=32

I'm sure you have some very valuable items that could be added. Thanks!!

[tombsycles]

Pretty wide choice of categories on this sequence of threads though.

I meant something more specific, not generic.
Like a choice of categories to user specific conditions that could be seached/browsed as required/requested.

Cheers

Tom

[tombsycles]

I just revisited the threads you suggested, and what I am proposing has nothing to do with many of the threads and response posts.

I'm talking about a dedicated thread series for shop and related safety, and not an "add to" poster series about how you fix your S##T tank or shop wiring problem in between.

Capeesh?

Thanks,

Tom

[Kerry Pinkerton]

Tom, the FORUM called SAFE SHOP PRACTICES is the correct forum for what you want to do. If you want to create a new thread, just go there and create one. If it turns into good stuff we can make it a sticky and/or put it in the library. There will always be other 'stuff' posted in the forums and threads will get hijacked from time to time. Like this one for instance.:smile:

[Dick Bear]

TOUCHE'

Dick Bear