So what is everyone working on?

[Kerry Pinkerton]

Seems like everyone is talking about tools more than metalshaping recently. What metalshaping projects are in the works?

[tbody321]

I have been gathering material to try and make my first e-wheel.
I tried out the ones you had in Syracuse and I have been hooked
on metal shaping ever since. I have some 2x2x.19, 2x4x.19
and 2 pieces of 3x3x.12 that I was going to use for the adj, but I think I should go with .25 thick. I think Im headed in the right direction.

[tdoty]

Working on finding the floor in my garage :shock: :lol: ! Yes, it really has gotten that bad :oops: .

Otherwise, I'm working on tools too - particularly tools I need to get to work on the Model A that hold center stage in my garage!

Since someone else brought up e-wheels though........... :lol: ............I've been tossing around an idea. I've come across some 1x3 14 gauge rectangular tube and I'm thinking of using it for an e-wheel frame :? . Okay, I know what most people will think when they read that - but here's the deal, I've got quite a bit of it. What about using the 1x3 to make a 3x5 box section? Yup, four pieces......................maybe add some tubes running through the frame to add even more reinforcement? Maybe even 5 pieces? Three across, one on top, one on bottom. Just another of those things I'm thinking about while I wait for my backordered welder to arrive :wink: . If I decide to try it, I figure it'll give me some practice with the welder :lol:

Once I get some things figured out/straightened out/built, I'll be ready to begin tackling the A in earnest!

Tim D.

[roger n cindy]

projects, :o Projects, :shock: PROJECTS :? ! we got a lot of em. but we have moved the 41 willys bus inside and have actually started work on it. we have the steel ordered to do the framework for the louvring press that santa left. uncle johnny started finishing the ewheel last night, needed more gussets. work goes backward on the 54 ford sedan delivery, we have a cracked head? moved the 31 chevy 1-1/2 ton back into storage. semi finished the log splitter, it's usable but not done. today i hope to move the Muppet bus and the airstream to the back of the shop and move uncle johnnys dodge COE into position to resume the cab sheetmetal stretch.
Phil, get your hood ready. Kerry, sorry i missed you at Moultry/ one of those seizure related incidents that forced us to leave early. john, we have started collecting materials for a boogieman design studio p/hammer knockoff. tim D i'v seen your garage :P you win.
roger

[GTmike400]

Building a shop. Ever since I moved I've had no shop.

Working on my scratchbuilt 1/6 hot rod prototype. Some of you may of heard of it, or seen it.

Thinking about a P-Hammer.

[v2cad]

Kerry,
I'm working on a patch panel for my brother's Model A. I made a hammer form using MDF and after beating on it for about 10 minutes my arm was shot. I remembered you using an air hammer to shape the copper weather vanes at Dutch's, so I got mine out and started hammerin'. I couldn't believe how easy the metal flowed. I've been taking some pics and will post them when I get something that looks like the finished product.

J.

[Tony Sanchez]

---Rear fenders for the barracuda, also the inner fenderwell structure. ---Tony.
http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3108/18baracuda_040-med.jpg

[Henrob Jim]

Is that one of those Mercury marine engines?

Jim

[PSH949]

Hmmm, projects from the demented :twisted:

I am finishing up the front forks for my adult size "Big Wheel". Just the front bearing hubs and the rear turning brakes and a quick test ride before paint and upholstery.

I just broke the news to my wife that I bought a '53 oval window Volkswagen for my birthday. Think tapered front gasser style with inboard pushrod front suspension and a mid-engine Northstar. Nothing too off the wall.

First though I have to get back in shape after "minor" shoulder surgery and help make The So Cal Mid Winter MM a raging success.

Steven Winnett

[jvo]

I got to working on my model A truck doors again. Followed Dutch's advice ( from MM04) about how to get rid of the oil cans and stuff. They are presentable enough now to bondo up. Am I ever glad I don't have my e-wheel built, because I can see how I would start over and build new door skins from scratch, if I had it built , and also had a set of bead dies for the model A bead on the bottom of the body. By the way, does anyone have measurements, I have a blank set of dies and want to get them cut, or else buy a set of dies for this body line. Armed with new knowledge and a little ambition, I can see where it would be easier to build new door skins rather than repair these old rusted ones. However, I wanna drive this truck sometime soon, so they will receive a coat of bondo, and I will move on.

[Boogiemanz1]

Hmmm........9 posts and roughly one third turned to tools.......anyone see what Kerry was talking about?

Guys......you don't have to have every tool to make something. You can't learn metalshaping if you are busy making tools.

I am going to the shop to pull the front fender off my `47 Indian and start making a buck for it......

I am going to challenge everyone on this list to post a Metalshaping project before the end of January 2005! I mean a series of pictures of making something from metal other than a tool. It doesn't have to be more than an ashtray, or a series of ashtrays.....metal Roses, a fender, a patch panel, a tank, just go out and beat on some metal.

If you are not finished with it at least post some pictures showing in-progress work.

If you can't post the pictures E-mail them to me and I'll try to get them on for you.

Any takers??????????john

[Henrob Jim]

He who dies with the most tools wins!

What he wins I do not know.

Jim

[jvo]

Okay, I forgot a couple weeks ago, a friend asked me to come over and look at the fenders on a 1926 Douglas motorcycle. They were really rough. Took one home, reluctantly, but I couldn't have made it any worse. I was asked if I could make a replacement, as it appeared repair was pretty much out of the question. Seeing as how I don't have e-wheel yet, I set about the task of re-doing the original. Because of my interaction with you folks, it came back together quite well. I tig welded up the cracks, and bent and metalfinished it, and now it only needs a skim coat, or maybe only a heavy primer before paint. I have 5.5 hours in it. I was just given the other one to repair last night. It is in better shape than the first one. When I started, I said I was very reluctant, but I thought, what the heck, I can always UPS it to Randy to get me out of trouble, as I doubt if a new one is available anywhere. What I need to say is this. A couple months ago, I couldn't have done this, and I CERTAINLY COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT THE METALMEET COMMUNITY. I'm not really that good yet, but my friend sure thinks I'm a hero. John V.O.

[Steve Hamilton]

I started this a year ago at christmas some of you will remember seeing it at MM04 when I shaped the middle sections. I am currently making the outer lip area. I will be adding a step by step series on this soon.
http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3482/33RH_outer_rear_lip_panel.jpg


steve Hamilton

[Bill Harrison]

"we have the steel ordered to do the framework for the louvring press that santa left. "
Hi Roger, What kind of louver press did Santa bring ya? Mittler Bros.?
Bill Harrison

[35WINDOW]

Well,

I am still trying to get my '35 squared on the mock-up Frame, doors aligned (man, there has to be an easier way!) and the Floor and the Firewall cut out of it in preparation for new Sheetmetal-then it's on to some more patch panels!

Just so I don't feel left out of the prevailing disease here (tool-itis :D ), I just purchased a new Lincoln 175 Mig Welder to go along with my newer Lincoln Precicsion 185 Tig!

Craig

[jlrussell4]

Hi gang,

JB wrote: I am going to challenge everyone on this list to post a Metalshaping project before the end of January 2005! I mean a series of pictures of making something from metal other than a tool.

I have been working on my wagon. More pictures to come soon.

http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1392

Jim

[roger n cindy]

hello Bill, yes it is a mittler kit from Gulley. i purchased some dies and was going to build everything else but were currently 50 projects behind.
roger

[Bill Harrison]

Hi again Roger, Street Rodder ran an article on building the framework
for a Mittler Bros setup a couple of years ago. It was a pretty good step by step. I think they used 80 feet of 4"x4"x3/8" tubing.
I used the same tubing when I built mine. Just flopping the thing around to weld it became a challenge . You will love having your louver press. When I finished mine my wife gave me a list of things she wanted me to punch louvers in :lol: :lol: Bill

[TheRodDoc]

Working on a 1937 Ford Delivery. Bottom 4 inches of car rusted away. Complete hand formed floor and all patch panels. Rear passenger fender was ruined beyond repair. making new rear half.

More pictures of the drivers side rear tub I had to hand make and a 57 chevy dash im working on.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=170

The Rod Doctor,
Richard Crees

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/17037fordrearfender.jpg

[GTmike400]

I am going to challenge everyone on this list to post a Metalshaping project before the end of January 2005!

Cross me off that list (http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18507#18507)

[Keith]

This is a part I made last night. I call it a dash extension , extension. It bolts to the dash lower extension and then will bolt to a console. I was cutting out paper patterns for that tonite.

It is made out of aluminum 3003 h-14 .063.


http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3463/19DCP_001111-med.JPG

Side view still needs a little trimming.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3463/19DCP_00101-med.JPG

Front view, now all I have left to do is make the console which is about 22" long.
http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3463/19DCP_000911-med.JPG

[John Jordan]

Okay, I forgot a couple weeks ago, a friend asked me to come over and look at the fenders on a 1926 Douglas motorcycle. They were really rough. Took one home, reluctantly, but I couldn't have made it any worse. I was asked if I could make a replacement, as it appeared repair was pretty much out of the question. Seeing as how I don't have e-wheel yet, I set about the task of re-doing the original. Because of my interaction with you folks, it came back together quite well. I tig welded up the cracks, and bent and metalfinished it, and now it only needs a skim coat, or maybe only a heavy primer before paint. I have 5.5 hours in it. I was just given the other one to repair last night. It is in better shape than the first one. When I started, I said I was very reluctant, but I thought, what the heck, I can always UPS it to Randy to get me out of trouble, as I doubt if a new one is available anywhere. What I need to say is this. A couple months ago, I couldn't have done this, and I CERTAINLY COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT THE METALMEET COMMUNITY. I'm not really that good yet, but my friend sure thinks I'm a hero. John V.O.

John,

You are a hero, and a Canadian hero to boot. :lol: Did you take a picture? I though about you the other day, found a card with your photos from the Speedway museum still on it.

Happy New Year!

[kustomizingkid]

First I'm going to finish my e wheel with lot's of pictures coming soon. After I get that done I'm gonna try my hand a gas tank. I've also just started drawing up plans for a willys CJ3A1 pedal car project.

[Gulley]

Keith;
Very-very-very nice work---send send pictures of the sides.
Have a great holliday;
Gulley

[Boogiemanz1]

OK, I am beginning to see who is shaping metal and who is talking about shaping metal.

Some of you guys have responded with some terrific photo posts.....I'm impressed.....some maybe haven't documented their latest work.....come on guys,we feed off that stuff, leave the camera in the shop. For the people that don't have digital cameras, buy a disposable...have Walmart or a drugstore put them on disc..and you are set....very inexpensive.

I was kinda counting on Keith and Jim, as they do post progress pics of their work. Richard and Steve stepped right up (keep it up guys that is what this site is about!) JVO.....take some photos, I'd like to see the Douglass. Jim do you have any pics of widening those F100 fenders??

My project

I moved a ton of junk, and wrestled the front wheel and fender off that Indian this afternoon. It resisted as it had not had a bolt turned on it in 22 years.
I plan on making radius guages, and multiple flexible shape patterns for it Friday. Then I have to blast and unsolder the fender
before I can start on a buck and hammerform. These fenders are three pieces.....the side skirts are welded/soldered on with the seam being covered by trim.
Making all aluminum bodywork for my `47 Chief is the reason I joined Metalmeet, so I will document it.




We have already had one member say he couldn't handle it...... there are 5475 registered members on this site.......I know more than 4 or 5 can post pictures of METALSHAPING/SHEETMETAL PROJECTS..

Lets go out in the garage and make some noise!!!............john

[CCWKen]

Keith, that is NICE!

Geez, I'm hung up on a "farm tool". I'm in the process of building a sub-compact road grader to keep the 1/4 mile driveway passable. I bought a Kubota G3200 for the diesel engine and a few parts. An old tiller, Eaton trans, Peerless 2500 two-speed axle and various other parts from the salvage yard. That and about 650lbs. of steel is close to becoming a tractor.

This is a frame up build so there's lots of "fit and fab" to get it done. The detachable tiller will be a 48 incher diven off a front pto. The grader blade is midship and controled with electro-hydraulics. The blade will have full tilt and angle capabilities. The front-end loader will also be EH controled.

I've been accumulating parts for this over the past year. I've finally got a few weekends to get this done. I should have been taking pictures. I'll take some during the dis-assemble for painting process.

[Spanky]

I made some more roses for the extended family last week for the holiday, this week and next are devoted to clean up in the shop so I can get started on my next driver, '71 suburban 4x4.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3503/28Spankys_rose-med.jpg

edit by john

[jvo]

Okay, okay, I'll take a few pictures. I can do that now, because my boss gave me a digital camera for Christmas. I "think" I can take a picture, but its gonna be easier for me to learn how to build a set of '63 Impala aluminum fenders than to learn how to post photos into a computer. I'm not so sure I wanna let you guys see any photos of my model A doors and stuff. Everyone needs to know this truck has been my sheet metal learning curve, and there are parts of it that I am not very proud of, that I am not going to replace, at least any time soon. I'm gonna drive this sucker this year, if it kills me. ( I have said that for the past 2 years.)
The Douglas motorcycle is in my friend, Dave Sauerberg's shop, and I'll get over there soon to take pictures as well. John Jordan, I know you'll like it. For all you cycle guys, Dave has a small business restoring motorcycles, mostly British, and specializes in re-doing speedos and gauges. They look like brand spanking new when he's done with them. He does fabulous work, I'll get him to post if anyone's interested. I didn't take pics of the first fender, but I haven't started on the second one yet. Might take till next summer before I figure out how to post them, though. John V.O.

[butch foster]

John - Here are a few things I've banged out in the last several nights when not working on the Ewheel.

This is my first attempt at a hammered dish. Its probably about 4" in diameter and made out of a scrap piece of copper I had left over from a roof repair. I'm guessing it was about 18 ga. After I roughed out the shape on the bag, I tried a rolled wired edge. Just used a length of .032 welding wire. Should I continue to roll the leading edge and tuck it under? Wasn't sure how to hide the leading edge. After I had it relatively smoothed out I planished it with a body hammer using a large diameter ball peen as a stake.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3501/4441IMG_0027-med.jpg

The next picture shows some work that isn't the kind of thing we typically discuss here, but hey it is metal. The two hearts are 19 ga sterling silver. They are two of four bookmarks I made as Christmas presents. The other two went to the grandmothers. The one on the left was made for my wife. In the interest of full disclosure, I didn't do the engraving. The heart on the right is still in progress. It has been cut, filed and sanded out to 2000 grit and almost ready for polishing. The other two pieces are xmas tree ornaments I made for my sons Stuart and Clark ( S & C get it?). Again, sterling silver. The hangers are made of 24 ga silver wire wound around a small rod to get the spring effect and connected with sterling jump rings. Working in sterling gives you a real understanding of the polishing process and chasing out scratches in metal with succesively finer grits. Sterling is so soft that once you get it polished out, you can scratch it with the calluses on your fingers.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3501/4441IMG_0041-med.JPG

I'm hoping these qualify as my January projects. Now can I go back to work on the Ewheel? Hey John post some pics of the 47 Chief. I'd love to see it. Happy New Year. Butch.

[Boogiemanz1]

Looking good Butch....Nice bowl.....and the sterling ain't bad either :D .............john

[Tony Sanchez]

----Hi Jim, all I know about the engine is that it is a chevrolet 4 cylinder engine with a ford head. The owner of the car is building 3 or 4 engines to run in this car,
---Tony.

[Pedalcar]

WOW Keith,

great looking dash.

Ben

[Keith]

Thanks everyone for the compliments.

Here are some pictures of the finished panels. You will notice that I changed the lower dash extension a little. Bill B. showed up and made the suggestion that it should be flowing and hey I hate to say it but he was right. I'll post a picture of a quick and cheap post dolly in another catagory .I only had to anneal the very small end of the console. I had never annealed any aluminum before so I was a little skeptical. It really shapes fast.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3463/19DCP_001511-med.JPG

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3463/19DCP_001411-med.JPG

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3463/19DCP_001711-med.JPG

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3463/19DCP_00161-med.JPG

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3463/19DCP_00181-med.JPG

[Bill B]

Keith,

That is the slickest looking console. Great work!!! Perfect shape for the Sedan Delivery!

The car will be raking in more plaques and trophys for you when done for sure.

[tvand]

Oh wow! Keith that is awsome work. The flow is great. I need to get back down your way and just shadow you for a day or two.Keep the pics coming. Hope to see you at Richard's meet if I can get there.
Ted

[Boogiemanz1]

Ooooo you are getting pretty salty Keith. Are you going to have it finished before the next Rebelmeet? You need to make some hammerforms and bucks of that and sell them! There are more than a few cars it will fit out there......john

[jvo]

I finally got some pictures downloaded into my computer here, but can't figure out how to put them into this site. Where do you go to start? John V.O.

[anders nørgaard]

John,

Try this method :!: Works for me 8)

I’ll try to give you a step by step on a method that works for me;

Login to Gallery

Click Album Admin

Click Add Album

Type name of new album (John…. Etc.)

Click upload photo

Select your new album (just created)

Select image (must be JPEG format)

Click Submit

Click process files

Your computer should now show a screen “No more images found�

Click “Back to Gallery�

Your image should be there now.

Anders DK

[jvo]

Thanks Anders, that's exactly what I was looking for, and I made it as far as selecting images, then deadlocked. If these computers are so **** smart, how come they can't program them to do these steps automatically? My pics are jpeg, (whatever the hell that means, but the files say they are), but I don't know how to select them. I also read elsewhere the photos have to be on the internet in order to load them. So where would you load them to? Is there some great photo world out there in internet land somewhere to load them to, then load them onto this site? I'm really showing how stupid I am as far as computers go, but I can't help it. Help again, and I probably should be posting this request elsewhere, but whatever. John V.O.

[Gene_Olson]

John,

Ander's directions are about how you get the photo from your computer to the computer the Metalmeet lives on.

Where it says Select image, you need to click the browse button and find the .jpg .jpeg image on your computer that you want to upload.

Once you have done that, just work your way down the rest of the list.

And you are doing great. You made it here, and you have been posting lots of great comments.

G.

[jvo]

Hallelujah, I managed to post some pics, and I now have a gallery. The comments I put under the pics didn't show up, and now I have to figure out how to put pics in a post like this one. Jvo

[anders nørgaard]

Congrats John :D

When you got the pics in the Gallery, it's piece of cake to put them into a post 8)

Open your pic in the Gallery (large pic, not just the thumbnail :!: :!: )

Right click on the pic.

Click Properties

Copy http//........

Open Forum you want to post to

Start post as you use to do

click Img

pase http//....
click Img* Immediately after http//....

Your pic is in your post

Anders DK

[jvo]

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/1440Picture_011-med.jpg If this works, it will be a miracle. (very frustrating)

[anders nørgaard]

WOW John,

I see, that you succeded uploading a lot of pics :D :!: I forgot to tell you, that if you want to add more than 1 pic to a post, you MAY have to open Gallery in a separate intrnet window :!: as you MAY get "thrown off" and your "post window" MAY be blank, as you shift back and forth between Forum and Gallery :cry:

Another option is to use a word processing software MS Word, etc.) Here you can shift back and forth between the Gallery in which you copy the http's and paste them in the word processing file. from here, you can copy the lot and put them into your post in the Forum. In the Forum you highlight them one by one and hit Img. (that puts the Img marks in front and after the http) and your pics are there.

Hope this wasn't to confusing :oops:

Think we'll soon have to take this topic to the proper Forum :!: (sorry John B)

Anders DK

[jvo]

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/1440Picture_011-med.jpg If this works, it will be a miracle. (very frustrating)http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/1440Picture_011-med.jpg Maybe a second miracle?

[anders nørgaard]

John,

Miracles do happen :lol: :lol:

Anders DK

[jvo]

Here goes again.http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/1440Picture_011-med.jpg

[jvo]

Wasting space here. There's a bunch more pics. Now I keep getting the same one. jvo

[anders nørgaard]

John,

READ MY POST BELOW YOUR FIRST PIC :D

That should do the trick :wink:

Anders DK

[jvo]

Thanks Anders, I see that now. Anyhow, my pizza just arrived. More pics in gallery, Dave Sauerberg, who is rebuilding the 1926 Douglas motorcycle could use some tips on how to remove the big dent on the side of the gas tank. I personally don't want to tackle that. I don't have any "before" pictures of this fender, but the other one, in the gallery pics is in much better shape. These fenders,(to be true to this topic) and my model A truck, is what I have been working on lately. My doors were at the sandblaster's when I took these pics, got them back yesterday, and now have to knock the warpage dents back out of them again. Next time, I won't work on rusty stuff, will sandblast first, then fix the parts. Everyone needs to know this truck is my first real metalwork project, and it took me from very,very crude mig welding to tig welding, and has been very educational. Pizza's getting cold. John V.O.

[Imperial Wheeling Machine]

Since I started this topic, I guess I should post something also. I'm not a bike guy but we're going to do some bike events this year so I decided I would be better off building bike stuff in demos. At the DC show on New Years Day, I started a cycle tank and was able to get this far during the weekend. Probably could have done them both finished in about 4 hours if I had been able to hammer.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/4832tank1.jpg

The first side is not too far from what I want and the other is just starting. The majority of the work is on the front with considerable stretching and shrinking. The tail is pretty much a straight roll.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/4832tank2.jpg

I did do some stretching on the tank tail and it curved over :oops: . Now I'll have to do some streching near the edges to get it to straighten out.

I'm bringing this to St Paul next weekend (Jan 15-16) to work on and hopefully finish. I'm hoping Jim Voight will be there so I can watch him work again. One talented man for sure! Watching him building a tank at last years St Paul MM was just a real treat.

[Hupmobile]

I thought we were just supposed to build tools, not doing anything with them. I will get pics up of my '32 hup that apparantly drove under another car some years ago. both front fenders need a bit of massaging and I am not sure where to start.

[metalchomper]

After reading Randy's post on the Willys repair. I got off my butt and beat some metal into submission while it's still 70degrees (going to only get up to 40 next weekend) :D . Heres a section on the my Bug that is rusted out. I welded on the whole quarter panel when I was 16 (I'm 32 now). the panel was overlaped below area where the fender bolts on. As expected, it held moisture and rusted away. The following pictures show the progress on a replacement panel. The semi finished panel in the last picture only took 40 minutes to make. The first two tries took longer. The try I first formed the small radius over a piece of square tubing. I then tried to stretch one side with a hammer and dolly. This was VERY slow and seemed to work harden the metal.

The next attempt I formed the large radius first and then hammer the small radius over a T dolly. I found out real quick this wouldn't work.

On the final try I again formed the small radius over a piece of square tubing. I then stretched the one side on the beater bag and planished on the ewheel using the flat anvil. This is the method that worked. I used the first panel attempt to make a gage by cutting several slits and bending to the desired shape.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/211area_to_fill.jpg

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/211gage.jpg

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/211stretching_one_side_on_bag.jpg

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/211ewheeling_streching_one_side_1.jpg

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/211Formed_panel_test_fit.jpg

[dude]

hi everyone,
This is my project that im currently working on, it's a 1969 Toyota Corolla(not really hot rod material like most of you guys build) so far i have made my own rails to resemble a mandrel bent clip
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/dude1972/newrails.jpg
Fitted the completed rear clip
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/dude1972/IMG_0076.jpg
Fitted the tubs for the 28x10x15's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/dude1972/tubs.jpg
and as you can see have made up my sheetmetal for the rear
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/dude1972/toy.jpg
The sheetmetal panels are just sitting there at the moment as i'm waiting for my tube/roll cage bender to arrive from the USA so i can do the cage then fit the panels permanently.
I made the panels using a e-wheel (to stop oil canning),Swager or bead roller and stretcher shrinker, this was my first attempt at e-wheeling so didnt want to go crazy like Wray and Randy,just wanted something simple to start with!!
Ill post some more when the next stage is done!!!!
cheers...Jason

[jvo]

Jason, I need proof that you live in Australia. There's a young fella here in Lethbridge AB, Canada, that's doing up a very similar 60's Corolla project to yours. I saw it last summer at a show and shine. Or did you recently move to Aussie land from Canada? If I see it this summer, I'll take some pics, and post them. Don't disappear into the woodwork, we're really friendly here. John V.O.

[Bill Harrison]

This is an aluminum door panel that I am making for my friend's 34 Ford
coupe. Bill
http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/3102_01_3-med.JPEG

[dude]

Jason, I need proof that you live in Australia. There's a young fella here in Lethbridge AB, Canada, that's doing up a very similar 60's Corolla project to yours. I saw it last summer at a show and shine. Or did you recently move to Aussie land from Canada? If I see it this summer, I'll take some pics, and post them. Don't disappear into the woodwork, we're really friendly here. John V.O.

John,
gday, fair dinkum, strewth,cobber,,,,,,just a small cross section of australian talk, but if you need more proof...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/dude1972/railrear.jpg
You'll notice the steering is on the right???
John i wish i lived over there, but id probably pick california or miami or texas as i couldn't handle the cold of the northern states!!You guys have some of the best modified vehicle laws compared to my state, as i cant fit a motor bigger than a 1.8 turbo to be legal, :x . If you can get photos of this corolla you speak about id love to see them!!!
cheers...Jason

[dude]

This is an aluminum door panel that I am making for my friend's 34 Ford
coupe. Bill
http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/500/3102_01_3-med.JPEG

Do you need an e-wheel to do embossing like this? i cant think of any other way to do it without damaging/marking the panel?(especially aluminium)
.....Jason

[Bill B]

Hey Jason,

That's a cool project you have going. Should be a blast "even" with a 1.8L turbo!

Bill,

That's a wicked looking door panel, nice work!

[jvo]

Jason, I'll watch for it. I'm sure it will show up at the first couple show and shine's, but its still Feb. here. We are having spring weather here now, so maybe we'll have some more winter till the end of May. You never know here. John V.O.

[dude]

John,
sounds good, ill keep you all up to date with the progress of my car as it comes along! should have roll cage in the next few weeks!
.....Jason

[Bill Harrison]

Do you need an e-wheel to do embossing like this? i cant think of any other way to do it without damaging/marking the panel?(especially aluminium)
.....Jason
Yes Jason , I used my ewheel to emboss the design . Bill

[Envy Inc]

Dave Sauerberg, who is rebuilding the 1926 Douglas motorcycle could use some tips on how to remove the big dent on the side of the gas tank. I personally don't want to tackle that.

John, while watching Great Biker Buildoff last night on Discovery Channel, I saw a pretty slick tool that would help your friend take the dent out of his tank. The guys from Detroit Bros were using an old Harley tank, but needed to remove the dents before paint. They used a tool called a "Stinger" which tack welded small pins in place. They then used a simple slide hammer to pull the dents back and ground off the pins when they were finished. All in all, it looks like a really simple operation, and it's much quicker than anything else I've seen to date. Hope this helps.

~Adam

[Oldtin]

If you don't have the stud gun/pin welder..........I just cold tack a piece of 1/8 in. tig rod shaped into a hook or a "U" shape, pull the dent with a slide hammer and snap or grind off the wire. I try to cold tack (minimal penatration on the panel) so the hook will snap off without damaging the panel.

Another method I learned from dads years doing production paint repair: For small bullseye dent that didn't have access from the back he would grind off the paint, apply a stick of body lead, then either pull the dent or apply pull to the lead and tap around the dent with a spoon, snap the lead and block the remaining lead.

Les Edmundson

[dude]

Bill
thanks for that! i think ill do a search for embossing and see the full process--(probably should have done that first!)
.....Jason

Oldtin,
What is cold tacking ? never heard the term?


..... Jason

[anders nørgaard]

WOW,

Now we're back to welding on gas tanks again :shock:

Please check this one out before you do that :!:

http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2388&postdays=0&postorder=asc&star t=15

Personally, I'd tin solder washers to the tank, using a soldering iron. Use your dent puller with a hook. Very fast method. You can shift between pulling on various washers to lift out the dent.

Using tin, the tank won't be so hot and they are easy to remove.

Just my 2c.

Anders DK

[Bill Harrison]

Hey Jason, Check Hemiramblers gallery. You will find embossing there.
He was the source of my inspiration. Bill

[Oldtin]

" Oldtin,
What is cold tacking ? never heard the term? "

Jason, this is just a term we used at one of the shops I worked at.

Basically in this case its applying the weld/heat mainly to the hook/tab/loop so that the weld doesn't get good penatration on the dented panel, that way the weld can be snapped off cleanly without tearing or deforming the panel.
If you have tacked a couple pieces together and had them snap apart while welding another area....thats a good example of a cold tack, the weld bead stays with the piece that had good penatration the other side of where the tack was will usually be cleaner than ever. :)


"WOW,

Now we're back to welding on gas tanks again"

Anders, GOOD point, I totally spaced out on the fact that we were talking about a used fuel tank! :oops:

I've cut/welded several fuel tank in the past, no matter how much preparation i use I am still nervous as hell. Tank repair rates right up there with split rim tire repairs. :shock:

Guess I should have put the standard disclaimer in that post:

Welding/cutting on flamable vessels can ruin your life.
If your not sure preparation has rendered the container safe, don't do it.

Les Edmundson

[Boogiemanz1]

Les, you write a mean disclaimer....... :lol: ........john

[dude]

Bill ,Thanks i will check it out

Oldtin,
i know exactly what you mean now,, (some of the phrases you guys use just leave me wondering-EG - Patinas??? didnt know what that meant till recently,not used much in australia)
It amazes me the little differences in our versions of english :wink:
Cheers.....Jason

[Gene_Olson]

,not used much in australia)
It amazes me the little differences in our versions of english :wink:
Cheers.....Jason
:lol:

Chrissy taught in New South Wales for four years. The language certainly had some surprises.
In the States we have baseball season coming up soon; the classic cheer song is: "Take me out to the ball game" The chorus is , "Root, Root, Root for the home team! . . ."
So when the first soccer match came up she asked some of the class who they were rooting for.
There was a collective blush and one girl said, "Oh, Ms Wilson! We'd never do that..."
root having four letters as it does. . .

She said an Aussie bad date was sometimes known as a "Wombat" , cause he just "Eats roots and leaves."

G.

[wtowns01]

Gene, that is almost as bad as an Aussie kiss. Like a French kiss but done down under.

[mattmcginn]

This is for my 1968 BMW 1600 project that I posted pix of the fender flares.

Another project this car is victim of is a transmission tunnel modification.

The stock transmission tunnel is a little small if your're looking to upgrade to a more modern engine/transmission. The one I am making will be fully removable to allow easy access driveshaft donuts, trans fill hole, etc.

As its a unit-body car, I fully braced the chassis prior to cutting out the factory tunnel, and here are a couple pix:

http://s94994139.onlinehome.us/albums/1600-project/P1010072.jpg

http://s94994139.onlinehome.us/albums/1600-project/P1010068.jpg

[dude]

Gene,
Thats a funny story.... anymore like that :lol:


matt,
We would be shot by our roads and traffic authority bolting in a trans tunnel in a uni-body in Australia, we have to fully weld it!
Looking good though! what engine/ trans combo are you going for??

................Jason

[Morrisminor]

Hi All

After suffering a guilt trip for not working on my project car for a couple of months I decided to make some progress on the missing floor sections.

Since I bought this big Nibbler (pullmax type machine) last year I thought i would make up some simple step dies to form the edges of the replacement panels.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3394/212v223-med.jpg

These are made up very quickly, but do an adequate job with a bit of a touch up with a hammer afterwards.

The nibbler works well with dies like this, but I use it most for shearing sheet metal into various shapes. It is the easiest, quietest, and least messy of the different cutting tools that I have around here.

Here is one panel with the edges formed:

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3394/212v232-med.jpg

With the other side done and a couple of other filler panels with holes cut for the steering column and clutch (RHD in New Zealand) , it looks like this:

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/data/3394/212V238-med.jpg

Another plug here for greenlee type punches for making nice round holes in sheet metal. They definitely cut down on the grinding and filing time, even if I don't have all the sizes I would like.

Next tasks are radiator mounts, then a removeable transmission tunnel.

Trev.
My Gallery (http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=212)

[Bill B]

Hi Trevor,

Very nice work. I can see what looks like an old Mercury in the background, very cool.

Neat idea, did you mill the radius in the stem of the die? Do you think it's 20mm?

How did you shape the upper die; how much relief for the 90 degree turns?

[Morrisminor]

Hi Bill

Good spotting on the Merc. Its a '64 Monterey Convertible, a little souvineer from a visit to Indianapolis.

I haven't bothered milling the die stem, mainly because I don't have a mill. It seems to be OK without it, and my dies are squared up by eyeball only.

For any others reading this, the Nibbler die shanks are 25mm round with a 20mm cutout on the bottom to fit onto registers within the die holders.

The upper die is just a straight cut made by hacksaw and file. I just run up close to the corners, and then hammer the last bit. Works OK with some care.

I actually saw a pic of one of these Nibblers being used to punch louvers in an old NZ Hot Rod magazine recently. Only problem is that is was taken in another city, but if i am ever down in Christchurch I might try and track it down and take a look at the tooling.

Trev.

[jlrussell4]

Hi Trevor,

Here is a link to some of Ron Nadias nibbler dies. You might want to check out Rons whole album....very interesting.

http://www.metalmeet.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=3424

Jim

[sha_ba_do_bang]

I just finsished this

http://www.inthepocketstudios.com/sandrail.jpg

Anyone want to buy it? I built it from scratch and also built the engine, its fast as hell, will poop a wheelie going from 2 to3.After I sell this I'm going tobuy a tig and make an english wheel then start biulding my sctrchbuilt 32' 3 window chopped steel body roadster (o yea supercharged)